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• 405 - Name Not Allowed (2026-01-20 21:05 ID:oB7Qhbi1 )
• One thing I've been seeing lately is a rise of various small websites, and they're being called "Indie websites", these range from geocities with decent 2000sish webdesign, to outright throwbacks like Spacehey (a throwback to late 2000s myspace). I myself have a web 1.0 looking site on neocities with it's own domain and everything myself, but it's pretty interesting to see the newer generation catch onto simpler days. And yeah, a lot of them are of the generation Z, a couple even outright born in the 2000s. \n\n It gets me really curious though, I've actually experienced the internet of the 2000s with it's forums and quirks and of course, toxicity being standard... and a lot of people jumping on this movement seem like people who would get eaten alive by the net drama of days old, sure it wasn't about serious politics (no fights over orange man or anything, unless the discussion was about the apprentice or some shit), but people would get pretty heated about general entertainment subcultures and what not, being a dumb ass emokid of the day, I kinda just barely survived. Sure, it was a better time, no one was tearing their anus on a handful of sites about some serious event that you get sick of hearing about after 3 minutes, but these people seem to be the ones who wouldn't handle toxicity well, and 2000s internet was (what the kids call these days) unhinged and pretty unfiltered, didn't care about feelings and expected a thick skin, so a lot of these new sites and surviving forums suddenly having an influx of younger users looking for the good old days seem to be more like a diet/lite version of the 2000s internet, the same thing but less flamey. \n\n I think the younger generation is more into the idea of an older internet, an internet before algorithms controlled everything and AI had to be injected in every corner, but obviously they would have never handled the unfiltered nature of it. Personally, I can see the appeal, but man, kids these days have it pretty easy, the most they get for liking some TV show is some one calls it "slop". \n\n So what's everyone else's thoughts on this? Stuff like Spacehey, sheezyart, neocities, etc. \n\n
• 401 - Unauthorized Name (2026-01-20 21:13 ID:oB7Qhbi1 )
• Also after having just heard about Sheezy art, I just checked it out as I am pretty interested in any alternative to Deviant Art with less of the shit of Deviant Art, but the site barely functions, which is sad... but I guess that's pretty accurate to the web of the 2000s where sites just don't function a good fraction of the time. \n\n
• 403 - Name Forbidden (2026-01-21 05:57 ID:lcvRshD5 )
• I can't really add a whole lot to what you have to say, as I've only experienced the mid-late 2010s WWW, which I imagine was a a pretty defining time for how the modern web is. I only started surfing the web, to use that somewhat-unfashionable term, going beyond major social media platforms (really, just YouTube) in the last half-decade or so.
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• I would like to leave a lengthy reply, but it's quite late where I am, so in perhaps 24 hours, I'll respond with something.
• Just leaving this here so you know someone's interested in your thread :) \n\n
• 406 - Name Not Acceptable (2026-01-21 17:52 ID:32KcMZBk )
• >>4
• gives you a noogie
• >>1 \n\n > >people who would get eaten alive by the net drama of days oldIn my experience the drama back then was intra-community, so while it was still vicious you were feuding with other people who were dorky enough to be in that space in the first place. \n\n I'd argue it's worse now because everybody has been shoved onto the same couple websites and the algorithm will bring drama to people who would not have engaged otherwise if the barrier of entry was higher. \n\n Yeah places like SA got traffic because of their "hey look at this freak I found" type posting, but it wasn't nearly as bad as "the algorithm dings you as a Marvel fan and then shows you posts about an artist getting cancelled for promoting grooming because they drew Deadpool and Spider-Man kissing" (true story btw).
• >>2
• I've been reading about Tegaki as a pixiv alternative. It's hard to be hopeful about any kind of western art platform these days if you've been following the payment processor news. \n\n
• 410 - Name Gone (2026-01-21 17:57 ID:AUB+aA8h )
• I haven't really been following it, but I think it's pretty normal for people to be nostalgic for the "good parts" of a thing while discarding, forgetting, or just not being familiar with the "bad parts" of it. \n\n > >it wasn't about serious politicsI feel like we were less focused on politics in general back then.
• But maybe that's my own bias in that I was pretty oblivious to it at the time. \n\n > >barely functions, which is sad... but I guess that's pretty accurate to the web of the 2000s where sites just don't function a good fraction of the time.One upside to all the centralization. If something breaks, there's at least a team of people who are paid to unbreak it.
• Assuming you don't fire them all. \n\n
• 409 - Name Conflict (2026-01-22 13:18 ID:pQ+X1gfX )
• The ideal outcome any subculture can ever hope for is that the next generation finds it, continues the traditions that are worthwhile and valuable, and leaves the worse parts in the past. It seems to me that's broadly what's happening with younger generations on neocities etc. and that's something to be celebrated in my opinion. You're telling me they aren't having stupid pointless flamewars over nothing like we used to at the time? I applaud them and hope they keep it up.
• This is a bit of a tangent, but it reminds me of the OSR movement in TTRPGs, where you've similarly got a new generation revisiting and reinterpreting an old subculture, keeping what made it good and dropping the stuff that sucks. The way younger people in the OSR play now is quite different from how people played in the old days -- more different than I think a lot of them realise -- but the changes are broadly for the better in my opinion, and it's a vast improvement over the subculture just being a moribund group of old people wallowing in nostalgia.
• 401 - Unauthorized Name (2026-01-24 01:36 ID:oB7Qhbi1 )
• Yeah, I guess it is for the better that we kinda moved on from dumb 2000s and 2010s forum drama \n\n
• 401 - Unauthorized Name (2026-01-24 02:47 ID:n1KlyEh3 )
• >>7
• Nice perspective. Refreshing to hear someone see these things in a positive light, even though the neocities people annoy me for whatever vague reason. \n\n
• 415 - Unsupported Name Type (2026-01-25 01:31 ID:oB7Qhbi1 )
• >>9
• Why is that? I know it they do come off as twitter people who didn't drop their shit and the more weird Sanrio fans at times. \n\n
• 401 - Unauthorized Name (2026-01-25 01:31 ID:oB7Qhbi1 )
• >>10
• Know that they do* \n\n
• 401 - Unauthorized Name (2026-01-25 10:58 ID:12naoU1h )
• I checked Neocities and it just feels like cosplay to me. \n\n
• 401 - Unauthorized Name (2026-01-25 16:50 ID:12naoU1h )
• Also, I can't stand that ''Click here to enter my website. Or, maybe not and enjoy a cookie'' attitude they have. \n\n
• 403 - Name Forbidden (2026-01-25 21:38 ID:oB7Qhbi1 )
• >>13 \n\n > >"Are you 18+?" prompt
• >The "No" link goes to google.com or disney.comKinda a classic honestly. \n\n
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